Hadestown Cast - Doubt Comes In Lyrics

This song is incredibly hypnotizing. Does anyone know songs similar to this one?

On the last run they do of the show with the full cast, they need to do the cycle where Orph doesnt turn around and really just fuck with the audience. Honestly, all you'd need to change is this song and the last 2.

This is the first time Orpheus sings Hades and Persephone's love song and nobody responds to it. There isn't even musical accompaniment. It's isolation at its finest.

The thing that I love about this song is the similarity between Hades and Orpheus. I personally believe the reason that Hades chose to test Orpheus' faith in Eurydice this way was because for half of the year he can't see his own love. Maybe at the start he had faith that after 6 months Persephone would come back, but how long did it take for him to doubt that when he came for her she would be waiting for him. After all what could he offer her that she couldn't get from somebody else, so he decides to test Orpheus' faith in Eurydice the same way he himself was tested to see if maybe it can go differently. Unfortunately just like himself Orpheus believe in the woman he loved and as a result lost her.

God my heart can't take this,,, aaaAAAÀAAAAA

Watching this musical while already knowing the myth is torture

3:45 (this part breaks my heart)
*_“I used to see the way the world could be...”_*
*_“...Now the way it is is all I see and”_*
*_”Where is she? Where is she now?”_*

Lol im sorry i fucking hated this, first time listening to the broadway version... it feels like they took the soul out

When the cello part emerges at 2:50, the experience of being isolated and alone become more intense my heart and brain can't contain the feelings

This song is genuinely scary, wow.

I saw it twice on Broadway, and the audience, who is otherwise completely silent, all of a sudden echoes Eurydice's gasp, and it's even more heartbreaking when it's a collective one. I love this show so much!!!

I saw it on Broadway and even though I knew the myth it broke me! Brilliant work.

This musical makes me wanna dance like Kate Bush

can he not hear her singing or something?? hermes does not say anything about him not being able to hear her, just that he cannot turn around. so if he could hear her and he still turned around . . . .

@notharmonious i wish anais mitchell had included some lyric to make that clear . . . .

claddagh182 it was probably hard to fit it in, but yeah, I wish she had too. I only learned it from other people

@claddagh182 doesn't Hermes say it when hes explaining it though?

@Saku i just listened to it again. he only talks about the not turning around part, not that he will not be able to hear anything she says.

Actually, Orpheus did hear her! But he thinks he’s hearing her because Hades is tricking him, that it’s part of Hades’ deception to get him to leave

Ok so a few things:
-How Orpheus's optimism and Eurydice's pessimism have essentially swapped over
-How when Orpheus sings his 'la's he is singing without the chorus for the first time in the show
-Addition to that is that the workers chorus are now singing and backing Eurydice and cannot be heard by Orpheus
-Orpheus repeating what the fates said to him word for word in the first verse
-The fates say the wind is changing just like at the beginning when Eurydice gets caught in a storm
*If you can't tell, I love the fuck out of this recording*

I think the entire fandom is united in wishing, and in more dire cases pretending, that this song never happened.

Listening to this again after just seeing the show is completely destroying my emotions but we doing this, bois

I’m listening to this right after Come Home With Me I and dear God it’s a feels trip.

OW
OW
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MY HEART

3:34 gives me chills

eurydice's notes were so uplifting. i physically relaxed listening to her. and it built me up. i expected, i hoped. even when i knew exactly what would happen next.

no matter how many times i listen to it, the cut when orpheus turns around will always catch me off guard

Here's how to make this song even more enjoyable: Download Relaxio or any white noise app and play the sounds of wind on top of the song to give the effect of cool, somber wind blowing through the remote tunnel. Like the winds of fate singing in the back of Orpheus' mind...

On top of that, you can add the sound of crackling fire to serve as the meager, fading torchlight Orpheus might have at his disposal against the vast darkness of the tunnel.

You can even play the sounds of nature in daytime whenever Eurydice sings to reflect her anticipation of returning to the surface, and then take it away whenever her part ends... But thats just cruel lol.

Just a few ideas to make this amazing song even more amazing to experience; hope someone takes advantage of this!

I am an absolute SLUT for that ominous cello in the beginning

IS THIS A TRAP THAT'S BEEN LAID FOR ME?

"Its you"
"Its me"
Me: NOOOOO AAAAAH WHYYY

Orpheus is so innocent

i loved this song and the whole album as a matter of fact, but I do miss some lines like "doubt comes in and leaves a taste of vinegar and turpentine". And I think the broadway version does a much better job with portraying emotions and telling the story, but because of that they had to remove some of the more abstract poetry and in some cases add extra things to songs that were in perfect shape musically speaking (like the lalala at the begining, which breaks a bit the intro)

I really like the la la las in the intro. I feel they do well to highlight the aloneness Orpheus feels throughout, and to set up the faint-hearted tone of our protagonist in his most vulnerable state.

tbh I agree completely. The original versions were abstract poetry portraying loneliness and fear whereas this is more direct in stating whats going through his mind. That being said this version does a better job at furthering the narrative and actually explaining why Orpheus would turn around (he doubts if hades is trustworthy, if hes good enough for eurydice for her to even follow in the first place, and believing hat hes all alone anyway) and the callbacks to prior songs makes it feel more coherent as a part of the show as a whole.


tldr both version did some things better than the other but we can all agree the staging when you watch this is wonderful

I agree,,, except im absolutely hating the broadway listening experience-- i dont need their story and emotions dumbed down and thats kinda what it felt like

@jae understandable. It carries a LOT more weight when you actually watch it though. They use the staging and lighting to really sell how isolated he feels. Plus its super quiet so you become hyper aware of every single thing he does, and it makes the fact he barely hears a thing from anyone else significantly more unsettling.

"I used to see the way the world could be, now the way it is is all I see."

OOOOOOFF LOOK WHAT THE UNDERGROUND DID TO HIM LOOK AT HIM MY POOR BOI I WANNA HUG HIM AND TELL HIM NEVER TO GIVE UP

Whenever Orpheus starts to doubt himself he sounds just like Hades! That's scary and the work of a genius.

thats okay i didnt need a heart anyways

Ugh, this hurts...but at the same time, it's so good.

i don’t have the mental stability to do this right now, i can’t i-

the "who are you/who am i" parallels... @ anais: fucking superb u funky little composer

The end of this song made a single tear roll down my cheek. No word of a lie.

Me...ugly sobbing.

Why are we here.. just to suffer...

Love how in the beginning everyone sang with Orpheus while Eurydice’s voice was isolated and now it’s the opposite ugh

the cellos in the beginning are so beautiful oh my god

*on a happier note— reeve carney’s vocals :)

Having seen this, live, having known what’s coming, having read the myths of Orpheus and Eurydice since I was a child- it’s still devastating. I still hoped.

The saddest part is the first “ᵂʰᵒ ᵃᵐ ᴵ?” bc it’s so little and sad and the first time he’s doubted himself ever oof I’m s0bbing (1:59)

This is so heartbreaking but even more so when you view it as being a metaphor for the alienation people experience under capitalism. It kills me when people are angry at Orpheus for turning around and not being strong enough, because that’s not the point. No human being is strong enough to walk along a difficult dangerous path all alone in the dark, both figuratively and literally. And Hades knows this. Capitalists know this. Capitalism and fascistic power structures can only operate when people feel isolated from one another, when your labour value is stolen from you and you can do nothing but keep your head low. Hades exploits this facet of human nature to maintain complete power and thus generate extreme profits. Do not blame Orpheus for breaking under this pressure. Blame the systems that enable it

I think this is my favorite comment, bless you.

Capitalism and fascism are kinda the opposite economic wise tho

In theory. The capitalist becomes the fascist when he sees what a truly free market would cost him.

I dunno, I think Hades is being pretty merciful with his conditions. His purpose isnt to break Orpheus, it's to test his will and simultaneously protecting the empire he built. Feeding into the system he built is the only way to keep it running and keep the riot at bay. The steel fortress he built around himself is indeed devoid of compassion and alienates its people but hes just a king doing his job to keep his kingdom alive.

#mindblown

BLESS YOU LUMINA BLESS YOU

That shit hurted

Okay. I think I've found the one single criticism that I have for this final drop.

Why the fck is the ringing at the end of this song so LOUD?!?

Don't get me wrong. I love all of the songs so much, but I literally have to pull out my earbuds for that part because it's seriously threatening to shatter my eardrums. :(

I believe it's because it's kinda like the noise when you flatline. If this makes any sense, when Orpheus was climbing out, it's like he was reviving Eurydice but then when he turned around, Eurydice lost any chance of survival. So, flatline. At least, that's what I believe.

I mean, I understand and appreciate the choice for the sound. The only problem I have with it is the fact that it's almost unbearably loud. They could've achieved the same effect without over-amplifying the noise.

@clyde the tortoise But when a flatlime sounds by itself, no one freaking out and being quiet, it gets louder. I get how it's a bit too loud at the end but I would assume it's because no one is freaking out and just letting it happen.

I was wrecked as soon as Orpheus started to sing more of his La's. After hearing accompaniment in its iterations. The incomplete piano trying to echo it as he tries again in the middle of the song. It makes that lack of an echoing voice so much Louder. All throughout the tale, so many people have doubted Orpheus in a variety of ways and here in this all of it comes up and out. The Fates, Hades, Eurydice, Hermes.


And Reeve does this so passionately, and stunningly so. The way he sings as if it's a trap, a trick. The way he sings and the tones. I physically reacted when I heard that. I love how they did the turn. I had my hands up to my mouth (I knew it was coming but ouch) How she was singing the whole the darkest night part from the previous versions of the song, how it builds and then the way it all stops, the way they sound. The silences between their lines. Just...ugh...take my heart.

That's okay. I didn't want to ever possibly be happy again, it's fine. *goes to sob bitter tears in work bathroom*

oh god. oh no. *this kills the man*

technically it kills the eurydice

Oh... this is... different?

This is. . . better.

@Jonathan Wallach ehhhh I reeeeally liked the old doubt comes in so I need to listen to this one more to get myself to like it :p

Oh my god... When she says "it's me, Orpheus," she sings "Orpheus" the same way she sings "Orpheus, my heart is yours" in "Gone, I'm Gone"

I KNOW I THOUGHT SHE WAS GONNA SING THAT

Nah, she sings the same note for all 3 syllables of Orpheus in Gone, I'm Gone whereas here she goes down a half step.

I knew what would happen, I knew I'd be destroyed, but I listened anyway .. I see you hadestown

"It's a sad song, but we sing it anyway"

Chayenne Oosterveld oUCH

This is really heartbreaking 😭

I made it 38 seconds in before starting to cry

When I finally get to this song
"I cant. Not again.

I'm not strong enough."

Saammmeee

I CAN'T HANDLE THIS,,,,

NO ORPHEUS NOOOO DON’T LISTEN TO THE FATES

I have never been so happy to be so heart broken

Update: I also love how the percussion at 1:22 kinda sounds like a heartbeat, so it really makes Orpheus' fear that much more obvious

The percussion is great in this piece! That "bum, bum bum" is very thematically fitting- this song is a literal death march.

*stay alive reprise vibes*

Ahhh I absolutely loooove the strings at the beginning! So creepy yet so perfect!!

my favorite from the musical! finally!

As we all expected, this version absolutely fucks.

hey ouch